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# 8) Q: Isn't Creation itself a miracle? On your pages here it says that God created the Universe and everything. If that isn't a supernatural event, what is?"

A: Creation, is not Super Natural and certainly not a miracle. (Miracle of hyperbole perhaps) How can the very definition of Nature be the object of a Super Natural Creation? We do not know all that is natural; but as far as Creation, it seems that it has follwed a pattern, strictly within identifiable and/or measureable natural laws. This is pure Asha. A miracle, outside hyperbole, is nothing short of a purposeful break of a natural law by a god for the sole purpose of making a point (Yeah I can walk on water, thus I am God). That is impossible for Mazda Ahura

# 9) Q: So, God did not create these laws then?

A: He created them out of Himself. His very nature is the source of them. God did not and indeed cannot come to down in a cloud and speak to man. That would be a miracle of Super Natural proportions and the super natural, does not exist. That would be violating His laws and God cannot do this. Even if He could, He would not use a human that is not his nature.

# 10) Q: How can you, or anyone know?

A: In the realm of things that cannot be weighed, measured, reenacted, verified, or put in test tubes. the Absolute Physical Proof method does not work. Thus you form an opinion based on evidence. Now, evidence can be of experiences, circumstancial evidence, like life itself either implies an astronomically difficult self arrangement, self generating and self regulating Cosmos, or a Creator. This opinion is a form of faith. Whether for believers or non-believers, it is immaterial. WE believe that Zarathushtra realized God, that he was enlightened, that he explained and spread God's message to mankind. We have only a believe, buttressed by spiritual experiences and a valid logical doctrinal framework, but at the end, neither we nor the atheist, the Abrahamic, the Taoist et all, KNOW physically and absolutely beyond a doubt.

Through our spiritual experiences some of us think we can reach another knowledge, called Gnossis, which in our definition is certainty through experience and communication with The Divine. But even that involves at a bare minimum, the willingness to contemplate the possibility of a creator and the willingness to open yourself up to an actual spiritual exchange with this Creator. But belief is not even necessary, although very helpful for growth and confidence, for Mazda Ahura is interested in our choices and the actions that they, ultimately, represent and not in our opinions, which in any case would never change ultimate reality. He cannot send an angel because there are no angels.

# 11) Q: Who says so?

A: Zarathushtra does! Because by not using angels, or even mentioning them, he is saying : ' They do not exist'. Not only that, he even calls them false divinities : " ... products of an Evil ( Or wrongful) mind ..." People are already disenchanted with Christianity, increasingly so, in the West and you want to bring them more of the same?

# 12) Q: They are not disenchanted with the Supernatural as such. Instead they WANT to believe in it - it's what God is all about for them.

A: Ah, but they are! That is one of the main reasons that they are leaving Christianity! The more people get informed, they less they believe in the Abrahamic model. Most still believe that God MUST be Super Natural because to them the only concept of God they have is the Abrahamic one. But here we are, ready to disabuse them of that conception. Through spreading the message and information we can offer them an alternative view of God. One that makes sense and is logically valid, something the God of classical Abrahamic religions is not. Besides, if God can communicate with man anyway, with the use of the human conscience, he hardly needs to reveal what is not hidden. He allowed Zarathushtra to teach about Him, just as an additional help to mankind..

# 13) Q: Are you saying Zarathushtra got "permission" from God? Cannot anybody teach about "his" god (false prophets)?

AR: No, not at all. By 'allowed', I merely mean that God did not interfere, rather He supported ( It is a good thing), but He did not command or ordain it. He supported Zarathushtra's desire to do it. Anyone can and usually does, teach about 'his god', I mean there a zillions of sects a out there. It is our responsibility as creatures, endowed with reason and discernment, as well as free will too choose between the alternatives. More over, the door to choice is ALWAYS open, but it must be OUR choice and no one else's. The more informed the better. I certainly believe that open minds, with reliable information, will compare and choose Mazdayasna , I least I LOVE our chances.

# 14) Q: " I would say some prophet needs to stand up, who realy believes he got a "divine message" from God directly.

A: You can sit for a long time waiting for that one. In our belief Mazda does not work that way. His message is present in creation for all to see it, meditate on it and realize it. Once that is done, if one seeks more, then Good Mind comes to you with Light, that is, a God's mind comunicates with you with light, given you insight and from there you can grow and realize. That was what Zarathushtra spoke about. Now it took a special person, indeed, it is said in allegorical conversation between Mazda and His Essences, that Zarathushtra was the only human , who,
A) Had realized that there was a Super Wise Intellect behind creation and
B) Was willing to spread this knowledge.

That is why Vohuman (Good Mind) , it is said again, encircled or embraced him with light, that is, Illumination. But fear not, Zarathushtra discovered the Divine and the Divine further explained the Message (already included in nature itself) and Zarathushtra proceeded to explain the Divine Message. So, while God did not descend on a white Horse or a burning Bush, nor send an Angel, He did explain and expand on Zarathushtra's discovery. Not because Zarathushtra was his 'prophet', but because, like I said above, Zarathushtra realized His existence and was willing to do something about it, that is, to teach humanity Mazda Ahura's Message.

The differences might seem small to you on first hearing them, but REALIZE that this is not a God possesing some one and using him as a His mouthpiece, nor fore telling , nor an angel reciting what to say. This is an interchange between two 'beings' Mazda Ahura looks at men totally different than what the Abrahamics think. To Mazda, Mankind is His Beloved, Good Creation with whom He wishes to Partner to Renew (or actually Make Wonderful) the Cosmos, but ONLY if man is willing and Only if man is ready, that is, if he wants to eliminate wrong choices.

# 15) Q: I meant that people need to believe that God, or a sent Heavenly Messenger (angel) physically appeared for the prophet to dictate the teachings, or message.

A: No they don't! They have been told that for millennia and the result has been, The 100 years war, The Inquisition, the Mennonite genocide, the raping and plunder of the Middle East, the Arabization of the Middle East, the destruction of Iranian, Syrian, North African, Egyptian, Pakistani and Afghanistani native cultures and untold women and minority abuse and even genocides and now look at the mess the Abrahamic Islamists are creating. That is why in the West, where there is actual freedom of conscience, people are looking, desperately, for other spiritual alternatives to the Abrahamic ones.

# 16) Q: Those crimes cannot be blamed on God, or prophets as such, but on the abuse of God's Name by worldly and spiritual leaders (read, "honored criminals").

A: What people need is to be told to think, inform themselves and only then choose what to believe! If people want to believe in prophets, that is their choice and a wrong one, according to history. But that is not the case, Prophet is only one possible terminology, and a flawed one. Zarathushtra, as a Ratu, is a Teacher of Righteousness, that is, a teacher of the way to harmonize one's life with God's Order for the Cosmos. People certainly will accept that.

# 17) Q: That's what YOU think they need, they may disagree with that. In my view, many would accept a new "prophet" and so there are several of them. Just look in your own country and if you can't find them, just check who bought one or more Rolls Royce's during the last 20 years! (Praise the Lord and send me your money...).

A: Precisely why we do not want that label! It does not matter what many accept! Look, let them preach their prophets, I will preach Zarathushtra. If I can, I will even help them reform the worst aspects of their credes. The purpose of all this exercise, is to provide humanity with a better tool to discern God and harmonize their lives with Him and His designs and progress spiritually to a point, were they can achieve to a higher or better plane of existence.

No ONE religion will ever totally rule. And remember, religion is not the goal, it is a means and it can always be improved. I will wager you that; if the Western paradigm of open societies, relative freedom and free exchange of ideas, lasts long enough, the Good Vision will become, if not the leading one of the leading religions of mankind.

# 18) Q: You say Zarathustra "realized" God, but others would say "invented" it.

A: So? They do now! They do not believe the Abrahamic fairy tales either, that is why Christianity is loosing ground. That is why most Jews are secular and many are atheists. AND the only reason that Islam is not in the same trouble ( Although it is in Iran and all of Central Asia), is because the demand for submission makes them unthinking mind numbed robots. It's not what some say, it's what most believe that matters. There will always be those that will say that Zarathushtra invented God and Zoroastrianism, but I can make the same argument about Paul, Moses, Mohammed and Baha Ullah, with all their prophets.

# 19) Q: On what authority - what authority does Zarathushtra have?

A: Authority: I do not know about authority and how good it really is. The Bible is an authority. The Quran is an authority. Look at the mess they made! I do know this, Zarathushtras's message speaks to the human condition like no other message I have experienced. So for me, its the power of his message and the changes in my life and that of others, that I see and experience. For crying outloud look at what is happenning in Brazil! Ideas can, have and will change the world, his ideas are by far, in my opinion, the best answer for Humanity and those who: " ... hear with their ears ... " will know of its power and 'authority'.

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